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  1. I’m yet to get a Zento for mys­elf but I really like the design aes­the­tic of this par­ti­cu­lar series. Thanks for sha­ring the new models.

    As for the Orenz Nero, com­pared to the ori­gi­nal, this pen­cil is a prime exam­ple for com­pli­ca­tion. Pre­fer the base Orenz that went the oppo­site direc­tion. The Orenz Nero is the most over­hy­ped and dis­ap­poin­ting pen­cil I’ve known.

  2. The Zento range ist really great, and I par­ti­cu­larly like the Signa­ture model. The cap which is held by a magnet is a nice detail! The Zento ink has a signi­fi­cantly lower vis­co­sity than, for exam­ple, the inks in the Signo range, and cer­tainly com­pared to the ONE inks (unfort­u­na­tely, the lat­ter skips some­ti­mes – at least for me – but the black one is impressive).

    I’m sorry to hear that you are dis­ap­poin­ted with the orenz nero. To be honest, I haven’t used mine very often so far but I like its design and the mate­rial the bar­rel is made of.

  3. Defi­ni­tely gotta try some of those Zentos.

    As for the Orenz Nero, the design doesn’t really bother me, kind of like it. The ori­gi­nal pos­tings clai­ming it was metal got me star­ted, so when I recei­ved mine and con­firmed it was pla­s­tic, was kind of a let down but the heft was ok. But what I really can’t stand is the auto-​feed sys­tem. I was expec­ting the same func­tion­a­lity as the base ver­sion, the added com­pli­ca­tion was IMHO not nec­ce­sary, spe­ci­ally in 0.2mm

    Mine only gets to see the light of day when I truly force mys­elf to use it. And that doesn’t hap­pen often.

  4. You won’t reg­ret try­ing a Zento!

    As far as I know the bar­rel of the orenz nero is a plastic/​metal com­pound. It feels like pla­s­tic but it is a little hea­vier (which I like). To be honest, I haven’t used it often enough yet to be able to say any­thing about the auto­ma­tic lead feed. Howe­ver, that isn’t one of my favou­rite fea­tures of a mecha­ni­cal pen­cil either ;-)

  5. Yeah the bar­rel has some kind of fer­rous com­pound on it as it is magne­tic. Which in retro­s­pect, makes it quite uni­que. Don’t know of any other wri­ting instru­ments made out of a pla­s­tic and metal compound.

    BTW What is your take on the Kerry MP? I’ve always been intrigued by it. Do you like it? Do you find it uni­que enough to add to your collection?

  6. It would be great if this mate­rial were also used for other pen­cils and pens! Spea­king of unu­sual mate­ri­als: Have you heard of the Tom­bow FUMI?

    I really like the Pen­tel Kerry, and I alre­ady own quite a few of them. I con­sider it a clas­sic, and every fan of Japa­nese mecha­ni­cal pen­cils should have one. Howe­ver, if you have very large hands, it might be a bit too small, even with the cap posted.

  7. Oh yes! I read about the FUMI on the won­derful blog of a fri­end of mine: lexikaliker.de Ever heard of it?
    I plan to order one from Jet­pens as soon as I can. An inte­res­t­ing mate­rial no doubt.

    Must try the Kerry then. Any color recommendation?

    Gving the Orenz­nero a second try. Just pul­led it out of the box yesterday.

  8. Yes, I’ve heard of this blog before ;-)

    The FUMI feels unu­sual in the hand but I like it. Howe­ver, I haven’t used it for very long yet.

    Of course colour is a mat­ter of per­so­nal taste. At the moment, I really like the limited-​edition ver­sion in ‘retro green’, as the shade of green is really lovely and the grip is slightly trans­pa­rent. Also of inte­rest is the spe­cial edi­tion of the Kerry for Craft Design Tech­no­logy which has a dif­fe­rent centrepiece.

    Enjoy your orenz nero!

    By the way, I’ve redis­co­vered the Mitsubishi/​uni Kuru Toga Metal. The engine used in this ver­sion (upgraded KS) is the one with the least play, and it’s a plea­sure to use.

  9. Can’t seem to find that edi­tion locally, but I mana­ged to find a “Mil­lion Years” limi­ted edi­tion in orange that looks inte­res­t­ing, but its twice the price of a regu­lar one. Will keep loo­king for the one you men­tio­ned. The CDT ver­sion is available on eBay. Let see which one hap­pens to cross my wal­let! LOL

    As for the Nero, you’d be sur­pri­sed that I have found it to be more plea­sing now. Guess some­ti­mes you just need a little more time for pen­cils to settle into you.

    I don’t have the KT metal yet (it’s on its way) so I will report back as soon as it arri­ves. Exci­ted to test that one. The Dive is still quite an expen­sive bit of kit over here. So that one will have to wait even fur­ther. Do you have the KT Wood? Isn’t it the same as the metal but with dif­fe­rent grip?

  10. The orange Pen­tel Kerry is beau­tiful! It was still easy to get last year, so with a bit of luck you should be able to get it at a reasonable price. There was also – and, for­t­u­na­tely, there still is – a silver/​transparent Kerry (a limi­ted ver­sion for the Tokai region) which is really nice too.

    I’m happy to hear that you find the orenz nero more plea­sing now! Yes, some­ti­mes it takes a bit of time.

    I’m eager to hear what you say about the Kuru Toga Metal! I think it’s very well made, also because of the very fine groo­ves on the bar­rel, and to me it’s the best model in the Kuru Toga range. Yes, unfort­u­na­tely the Dive is still quite expen­sive and dif­fi­cult to find. – I have the Kuru Toga Wood, and the only dif­fe­rence is the grip (see also „Kuru Toga Wood vs Kuru Toga Metal“ in the Knocko­logy forum).

  11. That trans­pa­rent Kerry cer­tainly looks cool. So many limi­ted edi­ti­ons that is hard to keep track of.

    As for the Kuru Toga, am eagerly awai­ting its arri­val. It’s one pen­cil I’ve been wan­ting for quite some time now.

    BTW have you read about the Dive clutch issues? And what is your take on the Safari Kuru Toga, do you have one alre­ady? Are you plan­ning to buy it?

  12. Yes, there are many limi­ted edi­ti­ons, not only of the Pen­tel Kerry – too many …

    I think you will like the Kuru Toga Metal!

    I have heard about the Dive clutch issue. It looks as though gra­phite dust is clog­ging up the feed mecha­nism, and this is a com­mon pro­blem with auto­ma­tic pen­cils. (As far as I know, this also led Faber-​Castell to dis­con­ti­nue pro­duc­tion of the Alpha-​Matic and TK-​Matic pen­cils – there were sim­ply too many repair requests.). I doubt there’s a solu­tion to this, as there’s no easy way (if any at all) to clean the clutch.

    I won’t be buy­ing a Safari Kuru Toga, mainly because of its distinc­tive three-​sided grip, as I hold my wri­ting instru­ments dif­fer­ently. In addi­tion, it is neither a genuine LAMY pen­cil nor a genuine Mitsubishi/​uni pencil.

  13. Wow, that detail on auto-​feed mecha­ni­cal pen­cils is new to me. Would have thought that by this day and age the Japa­nese would have fore­seen a fix to this. Sadly, it seems they do not. BTW the always-​on lead on the Dive is quite a mar­ve­lous fea­ture. They found a pretty cla­ver way to make use of that magne­tic cap. Some­day I will get my own. Con­side­ring how spa­rin­gly I use them, it is sure to last my life­time! LOL

    As for the Lamy, I totally agree. It feels quite like a tra­vesty. When I read the news on that super blog I told you about -lexi­ka­li­ker, my first thought was “I need to buy one of the ori­gi­nal ver­si­ons before its too late”. I was pretty ali­en­ated from Lamy but I recently had the oppor­tu­nity to buy their 2000 foun­tain pen and I’m back in love again. Their design aes­the­tic is quite uni­que and the phi­lo­so­phy was also pretty distinc­tive from any other com­pe­ti­tor on the mar­ket. Now it is slowly flowing to become just a brand for Uni pro­ducts IMHO. Hope the Japa­nese can respect its legacy.

  14. I think the auto­ma­tic lead feed mecha­nisms have now been impro­ved, ther­eby redu­cing the pro­blem. Howe­ver, it is not cer­tain whe­ther the pro­blems with the Kuru Toga Dive are actually cau­sed by gra­phite dust. And if the pro­blem were really that serious, we’d be hea­ring about it much more often, and then pro­duc­tion might even be stop­ped (as was the case with the Pilot S30, where the lead slip­ped inside the mecha­nism). – The always-​on lead fea­ture is indeed very cle­ver! It’s almost like witchcraft ;-)

    The Lamy 2000 is a clas­sic! I’m happy to hear that you like it. (I have the 2000 pen­cil that I bought many years ago.)

    I almost for­got to men­tion that I’d bought a Lamy Safari vista ball­point pen for the Mitsubishi/​uni M17EF refill (yes, I know, nor­mally you do it the other way round). Howe­ver, I had to return it because of the two mould lines along the entire trans­pa­rent bar­rel which felt very uncom­for­ta­ble. Later, when I was in a shop and had a chance to look at other ver­si­ons, I rea­li­sed that all of them had these ugly mould lines. I just can’t get my head round the idea that Lamy would do some­thing like that. But as far as I’ve heard, this manu­fac­tu­ring issue is no lon­ger pre­sent in the models curr­ently being offe­red by Mitsubishi/​uni.

  15. Then again you always have to con­sider user error. I’ve seen my fair share of peo­ple using their wri­ting tools in pretty odd ways -spe­ci­ally foun­tain pens. And yes, I do remem­ber all the stir cau­sed by the S30, which by the way, is not a pen­cil that enti­ces me to buy it. Much pre­fer an S20 or even bet­ter and S15 which am yet to create fol­lo­wing that famous GS-recipe!

    Do you recom­mend the 2000 MP? I was in love with the Lamy Scribble whose aes­the­tic I find some­what simi­lar to that of the 2000, but never got to buy it. I was pretty close while in my Ber­lin visit, as it was on sale on the Bau­haus museum. Should have buy it then, now its rare and quite expen­sive when it comes about.

    Inte­res­t­ing detail on the Safari. I got a foun­tain pen on my desk right now and I can’t find any moul­ding lines on it. Really a shame they didn’t kept the same qua­lity level on the BP but glad Mitsu mana­ged to fix things up. I don’t own any BP, MP or Rol­lers from Lamy other than a very vin­tage pair of Black Pens.

  16. Of course it is quite pos­si­ble that the pro­blems with the Kuru Toga Dive are down to how it has been used. I’m afraid the mecha­nism is quite deli­cate, and I think that even app­ly­ing too much wri­ting pres­sure can cause damage. – I also pre­fer the S20 (and cer­tainly the S15) to the S30, but I still find the S30 quite appealing.

    I haven’t used the Lamy 2000 for a long time, and to be honest, I don’t really need it any more. Unfort­u­na­tely, the Scribble has become an expen­sive collector’s item!

    The foun­tain pens in the Safari range appear to be much bet­ter made than the mecha­ni­cal pen­cils and ball­point pens, and I’m plea­sed that Mitsubishi/​uni has fixed this pro­blem. – I have a few pens and pen­cils from Lamy, inclu­ding the noto, desi­gned by Naoto Fuka­sawa who also worked for MUJI, and some multi pens.

  17. Sad to hear that you no lon­ger use that Lamy 2000 MP. Are you up for a trade?

    Have you seen the new mete­ora and meteo­rite Safa­ris? That might con­firm that Uni is indeed mes­sing with the moulds, as these add a knur­led tex­ture to the grip and barrel.

    I’m quite fami­liar with Naoto Fukusawa’s design work. He and Jas­per Mor­ri­son co-​authored an inte­res­t­ing design book mani­festo under the title “Super nor­mal”. If you haven’t read it, I recom­mend it. Jas­per also desi­gned a pen for Lamy, the Aion.

    BTW The KT Metal is here. First impres­si­ons: ligh­ter and thin­ner than I was expec­ting but the clean design, the tiny KT engine win­dow, the tex­tu­red bar­rel and the stria­ted grip look stun­ning! Will get back with more.

  18. I bought the Lamy 2000 because of its design but then rea­li­sed that I pre­fer other mecha­ni­cal pen­cils for ever­y­day use. Yes, I’d sell it or trade it.

    It’s great to hear that you are fami­liar with Naoto Fukusawa’s design work! I bought the book “Super Nor­mal” many years ago but have retour­ned it. I found the pho­tos dis­ap­poin­ting and the details about the objects very sparse. I think the book could have been done much bet­ter. – The Lamy Aion is amazing!

    The Kuru Toga Metal is indeed very well made, and I’m happy to hear that you like it too. Yes, it’s quite light and thin, but it doesn’t feel cheap. What impres­ses me most is that the mecha­nism is very sen­si­tive and responds even with soft leads and light pres­sure, and on top of that has very little play. I think it’s the Kuru Toga with the best usability!

  19. What would you trade the Lamy for?

    Maybe my take on the book was a bit more glamo­rous having atten­ded the accom­pany­ing exhi­bi­tion. Been loo­king for it but can’t find it, can you believe that? Do you have the Aion?

    As for the Kuru toga Metal, it is indeed the best KT-​engined pen­cil I’ve ever tried. The qua­lity and design details are quite ama­zing for a pen­cil this price. Been using it to draw and write and it works beau­tifully on both tasks. Uni out­did them­sel­ves with this one. I’m liking it so much that I might go for the Wood ver­sion just to have the green color and not an iden­ti­cal pencil!

    BTW The Orenz­nero has won me over. Even after having a jamming pro­blem -which I sol­ved fol­lo­wing the ins­truc­tions on Pentel’s Japan site, I kind of app­re­ciate the pen­cil now. The design its­elf is one of the best Pen­tel has to offer, pro­ba­bly only second to the Smash.

  20. I haven’t given any thought yet to what I’d trade my Lamy 2000 for.

    It’s great that you went to the exhi­bi­tion – I would have loved to go too! No, I don’t have the Aion. I stop­ped buy­ing new foun­tain pens a long time ago because, unlike with mecha­ni­cal pen­cils, for exam­ple, I no lon­ger switch bet­ween them; I always use the same two (well, maybe a third one now and then, but that’s it).

    I’m happy to hear that you like the Kuru Toga Metal! Mitsubishi/​uni out­did them­sel­ves not only with this model, but also with seve­ral other pens and pencils.

    Your praise for the orenz Nero has made me want to dig it out and use it again! Yes, the design really is great.

  21. Inte­res­t­ing! Which pens do you use regularly?

    Yes, you are right, Mitsu/​ Uni have quite a lot of all-​stars in their range now. Zento comes to mind. Hope to see that product-​development crea­ti­vity put to work inside Lamy but pre­ser­ving the brand’s iden­tity and German-focus.

    Glad you also brought back to life the Nero!

    BTW Staedt­ler Mexico finally deci­ded to bring the Noris to our mar­ket. Unfort­u­na­tely, it is the upcy­cled wood ver­sion. But I might as well buy a pack for the coll­ec­tion. Maybe as a fair­well to that ico­nic and bel­oved pen­cil brand. They also brought the Norix which intri­gues me due to its unsual shape. Have you ever used any of these?

  22. I mainly use the Pilot Cus­tom Heri­tage 91 F with Aurora black ink and the Pla­ti­num Car­bon Pen with Pla­ti­num Car­bon ink. About ten years ago, I bought the lat­ter out of curio­sity, and I never would have thought that it would one day be one of my favou­ri­tes. Unfort­u­na­tely, pro­duc­tion of this ama­zing foun­tain pen was dis­con­tin­ued around 2020.

    Mitsubishi/​uni never cea­ses to amaze me! I also hope that the com­pany will pre­serve the Lamy brand (even if things will never be the same as they used to be – those days are gone).

    I haven’t used the orenz nero yet, but at least it’s no lon­ger sit­ting in that dark drawer ;-)

    It’s a shame that Staedt­ler has stop­ped making its clas­sic Noris pen­cil from wood; now the last remai­ning wood­ca­sed pen­cils are the Lumo­graph and the tra­di­tion (but I wouldn’t be sur­pri­sed if the lat­ter were also made from upcy­cled wood before long). Alt­hough I find the upcy­cled wood tech­ni­que inte­res­t­ing, I no lon­ger like these pen­cils at all, so I won’t be taking a clo­ser look at the Norix either.

  23. Inte­res­t­ing sel­ec­tion of pens. I alre­ady knew you are a fan of Japa­nese nibs, but would’ve never gues­sed the Car­bon Pen was among your favou­ri­tes. That pen is still available for purchase in Ama­zon locally. Might give it a try.

    I own 4-​5 Pla­ti­num Honest pens from the 60’s -70’s (found NOS) that share the same nib and sec­tion design as the Car­bon pen and I must admit, it is a joy to write with them. They are quite springy for such a small stain­less steel nib design. I found them by mere acci­dent and only bought one at first. After using it, I deci­ded to go back for more. Also love the blue-​black car­tridges that came with them, not sure the for­mula stayed the same.

    As for Staedt­ler, yes, it is quite a shame the route they are taking. The Wopex is by far the best extru­ded pen­cil I’ve ever tried but it by no means my favo­rite. Also the fact that you need a spe­cial shar­pe­ner for it, it quite a let down. I mean, you can use wha­te­ver shar­pe­ner you hap­pen to have, but the mate­rial from the Wopex is sure to dull the blades in the blink of an eye.

    Lastly, sad to see the 123 60 depart. For some reason, I really liked that pencil!

  24. The Pla­ti­num Car­bon Pen is really ama­zing, and I wouldn’t have thought back then that it would become one of my favou­ri­tes. – Are you sure that it is still available at Ama­zon locally? The model num­ber is DP-​800S, and there is the DPQ-​700A which looks simi­lar but has a dif­fe­rent nib which is not as good as the one of the Car­bon Pen.

    It’s great to hear that you have these old Pla­ti­num pens! This must have been a fan­ta­stic find.

    It’s not just the pro­blem with shar­pe­ning that makes Wopex pen­cils a little annoy­ing to use (at least for me), but also the lead – I sim­ply really don’t like the way it writes.

    Yes, it’s a real shame that the 123 60 has been dis­con­tin­ued. The suc­ces­sor, the Noris natu­ral 130 60N-​2, is manu­fac­tu­red in China, and from what I have heard it’s made from Gme­lina. But I’ll have a clo­ser look at it as soon as I’ve got one!

  25. My bad, the nib is defi­ni­tely not the same. Didn’t pay atten­tion to that nor did it occur to me that the Car­bon pen had dif­fe­rent models.

    As for the Noris, as far as I can remem­ber it was also kind of dif­fi­cult to get a nice point on them. Let me know your thoughts on that natu­ral wood Noris. Hop­efully it might be our last hope for the real thing.

  26. No pro­blem :-) There was only one Car­bon Pen, i. e. only one with that spe­ci­fic name; the others are sim­ply refer­red to as “desk pens“ (Pla­ti­num used to have more, but now there is only one left). – By the way, Pilot also makes pens with a simi­lar design (see here).

    It is gene­rally very dif­fi­cult, if not impos­si­ble, to shar­pen a Wopex to a fine point, as the fine tip always breaks off because the extru­ded lead does not have the neces­sary strength.

    I will try to get a Noris natu­ral 130 60N-2!

  27. Thanks for the details on the Car­bon Pen. AFAIK, pretty much all other pen brands have dis­con­tin­ued desk pens, it is quite inte­res­t­ing that Japa­nese com­pa­nies still have them on their cata­logs. I always found them unin­spi­ring but then one day I got a Cross desk pro­pel­ling pen­cil and found out that the extra lenght in the bar­rel works won­derfully for dra­wing pur­po­ses. Now am on the loo­kout for more.

    BTW Going thru my coll­ec­tion I found out that I alre­ady own a Noris Natu­ral. It wri­tes beau­tifully and is made out of cedar wood. Unfort­u­na­tely is been out of pro­duc­tion since WWII!

    Let me know how good is that Noris.

  28. Yes, Japa­nese manu­fac­tu­r­ers still have a few desk pens; howe­ver, Pla­ti­num has only one and Pilot only two left.

    At first I found it a bit odd too, but I’ve come to like this design. I also have Zebra Ban­kers ball­point pen in that design, and it’s a plea­sure to use it.

    Ha, an old “Noris natu­ral” :-) If it dates from the WWII, then it’s actually a stan­dard Noris, and as pain­ting wasn’t allo­wed at that time, it remained “natu­ral“. It deser­ves a spe­cial place in your collection!

    I’ll let you know about the new Noris natural!

  29. I also have a Tra­di­tion Natu­ral and seve­ral other Ger­man pen­cils from WWII. One of them is a Wehr­match standard-​issue short copy­ing pen­cil that accor­ding to my rese­arch, was used on the front­li­nes to pass orders among the tro­ops. Sol­diers used to lick this pen­cils to acti­vate the per­ma­nent marks, can you believe that? It comes with its ori­gi­nal card­board cap.

    Do you have any WWII pen­cils on your collection?

  30. Please do remind me to pay a visit to the Lexi­ka­li­ker museum on my next trip to Ger­many. Tre­asu­res abound there!

    That is one beau­tiful pen­cil, thou I pre­fer its blue/​ black ordi­nary color scheme. The Kar­to­thello is one ama­zing set. So much beauty on it. Seen that post before.

    BTW Do you hap­pen to know if pen­cils from the WWII-​era still used red cedar? I have a few examp­les with wood that dif­fers a lot from the cur­rent cedar used in pen­cils. Both in tex­ture and color.

  31. Unfort­u­na­tely, my place doesn’t look like a museum, but more like a museum store­room where you cram all the stuff you can’t or don’t want to display ;-)

    Yes, the blue and black colour scheme is much nicer! I’m glad I mana­ged to get hold of that Kart­ho­tello set back then, because these days you hardly ever come across map pen­cils anymore.

    Unfort­u­na­tely, I have no idea who used red cedar and until when. Howe­ver, I think that the manu­fac­tu­r­ers had alre­ady swit­ched to incense cedar before the Second World War.

  32. I’m afraid the boxes that have been label­led care­lessly aren’t all that interesting ;-)

    I’m really loo­king for­ward to see­ing these pho­tos! It would be best if you could send them by email.

  33. Sure, will send the email. BTW just got hold of the Noris and Norix upcy­cled pen­cils. The Noris is defi­ni­tely a Wopex under a new dress. Unfort­u­na­tely the local branch deci­ded to import the one with the era­ser up top, so it is not only a let down in terms of per­for­mance (as oppo­sed to the wood ver­sion) but also, it is ugly as hell with that ferule.

    As for the Norix, I had some­what high expec­ta­ti­ons on it. I knew that it is Wopex-​based but was intrigued by its design and sup­po­sedly enhan­ced grip. The rea­lity was far more dis­ap­poin­ting thou. The grip is about the same as that of the Noris the only dif­fe­rence are the tiny little dots ador­ning the grip on one side, which frankly don’t make any dif­fe­rence to me. The quasi-​triangular shape might be more ergo­no­mic but at the same time it makes even har­der to get a decent shar­pe­ning out off it. So in sum­mary, it is an even worse ver­sion of the Wopex. No ferule up top at least.

    Also, Staedt­ler seems to be pha­sing out their old shar­pe­ner -the metal ver­sion, for a new Eisen-​like magne­sium ver­sion that it’s ligh­ter and that has a German-​made blade. It looks exactly as the no-​brand Chi­nese vari­ants being sold next to it, only with the Steadt­ler logo and packaging.

    Last but not least, there are some offe­rings for H and 2B Noris school pen­cils of the wood kind on the local Ama­zon web­site. Pretty sure this is NOS from somewhere.

  34. Guil­lermo: Thank you for the details about the Noris and Norix pen­cils! What you’re say­ing doesn’t sound very encou­ra­ging ;-) Nevert­hel­ess, I’ll keep an eye out for these pencils.

    Regar­ding the STAEDTLER shar­pe­ners: If they look bland and have a German-​made blade they could be made by Eisen.

    It’s great to hear that there are still wood­ca­sed Noris pen­cils around!

    Mat­thias: Danke für den Link! Ich habe ihn auch in den Arti­kel gepackt. – Bei mei­ner Suche nach wei­te­ren Details bin auf „Stu­dent opens museum show­ing his mecha­ni­cal pen­cils in Kyoto“ gesto­ßen. Dies ist wohl der Ori­gi­nal­ar­ti­kel, und er ent­hält einige wei­tere Details und Fotos. Die­ses Museum würde ich zu gerne besuchen!

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